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Hmmm,

Well I just don't feel like sinking nearly a grand into my grandma's old Pontiac so I think she is going the way of the dodo.
Consequently my Challenger just turned into my daily driver.
 

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Hmmm,

Well I just don't feel like sinking nearly a grand into my grandma's old Pontiac so I think she is going the way of the dodo.
Consequently my Challenger just turned into my daily driver.
man that sucks especially since you dont live in a warmer climate,
keep it clean, park it in a safe place and do a lot of:pray:
 

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man that sucks especially since you dont live in a warmer climate,
keep it clean, park it in a safe place and do a lot of:pray:
Agreed
On the plus side I can now use the very nice car cover my wife bought me for Christmas for the challenger.
I love driving my car but the 50+ miles a day now will rack up quick.
 

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That's not all bad. People would kill for Challenger as their daily driver :p
 

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Still no snow in my neck of the woods, but that said, I'd never be able to take the girl out and hear her shiver...

Hmmm,

Well I just don't feel like sinking nearly a grand into my grandma's old Pontiac so I think she is going the way of the dodo.
Consequently my Challenger just turned into my daily driver.
 

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drive mine everyday. snow, ice, or rain, and that's without ESP.

tires help with traction. ESP does nothing to improve traction. it only helps inexperienced drivers control the power.
 

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drive mine everyday. snow, ice, or rain, and that's without ESP.

tires help with traction. ESP does nothing to improve traction. it only helps inexperienced drivers control the power.
Tony, you have had some nasty rides going back and forth from Morris, and I am happy to avoid that while I walk to work.

You are correct, ESP does nothing to change traction which is directly related to the coefficient of friction, however, it does a lot to improve tractive effort by shifting power to a wheel that may have more friction. It certainly helps my wife, however, I would prefer a limited slip differential and scrap the electronics.

This system of traction control (not by braking but actual power distribution)
was developed by GMs EMD to control wheel slip on the monster diesel-electric locomotives quite a few years ago. They sensed wheel slip on the rail and reduced power to that traction motor and increased to another (simple explanation). The concept made its way over to autos only applied differently by using the wheel brakes.

One would think it would be cheaper and simpler just to use limited slip rear ends, but once you get ABS it is just a few logic chips. :(
 

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the posi rear ends have their issues too. once they do lose traction, they lose the ability to track straight. with an open differential, you still have 3 wheels tracking the car straight. an open rear is safer for most drivers.
 

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I have put over 17,000 miles on mine since I bought March of last year. It is a daily driver for me.
 

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Yes my daily driver is a Harley, but my only "cage" is the Challenger so it HAS to go to grocery store/ parts store/everything I can't strap to my bike, but its still babied! Who would have thought u could strap a 12" sub enclosure or the bail of cedar chips for the hound houses to the back of a bike? Only the motivation of owning this beautiful car, would make anyone attempt such things, so I feel ur pain brother!
 

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Who would have thought u could strap a 12" sub enclosure or the bail of cedar chips for the hound houses to the back of a bike? Only the motivation of owning this beautiful car, would make anyone attempt such things, so I feel ur pain brother!
only someone that has done it can truly understand cases of beer to spare bike tires to my guitar and practice amp, my bikes were more
like burros than motorcycles.:rofl::rofl:
 

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Oh man am I hating the snow this week.
Not cause it's hard to drive in, just gotta slow down, but my car is so dang filthy...grrrrrrr:mad:
 
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